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#1 kirjoitettu 24.12.2011 21:56 Muok:24.12.2011 22:21

Sorry, plese reply english.

I've been "playing" with synts and guitars about 5 years. That includes couple of long break's as well. My major problem is that timing is poor while playing and i don't understand metronome whether guitar or piano/synths. I have no ryhythm sense and musical skills has been shit all the time, technique while playing is wrong etc.

I have heard that some persons it takes longer time, but does it really? Couple of persons that i have met have played about 15 years starting with age of 6-7 and are level above me.


So basically i don't understand nothing from music and haven't learn nothing yet, apart from chords inversion and reading staff. I have had couple of piano lesson's back in 2004-2005, but that includes lot of amusement lessons as well. So I learn those things there but nothing really useful. The teacher also said that use click/metronome but that didn't work. So basically I actually didn't do my homework's at that time.

Any tips how to continue my music recreation will be greeted.

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#2 kirjoitettu 24.12.2011 22:11 Muok:24.12.2011 22:11

Music isn't about learning the theory. It's about going with the flow.

Close your eyes, look into another world, see what you want to play, and, like nike says, just do it. It's not that difficult, so don't make it difficult.

The main obstacle in making music is your own mind. Don't overthink it. Don't think you have to know how to do it before you can do it. Play. Have fun with it.

Slide.

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Arhebeatz
Arhebeatz
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#3 kirjoitettu 24.12.2011 23:25

For me, music is about having fun. I played drums for 5 years by myself - then I wanted to learn more, so I went and took lessons for 5-6 years. Now I'm playing just for the fun for it, again

So yeah. imo its like, you do a song in your mind, then you construct it in some way: arrange it to a complete song in your sequencer or whatever, write it to paper and give it to other people to play. If you enjoy working with music, its your thing, if you dont, it isnt.

Lots of offtopic.

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DMF
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#4 kirjoitettu 25.12.2011 00:18

Z0anthr0pic kirjoitti:
Sorry, plese reply english.

I've been "playing" with synts and guitars about 5 years. That includes couple of long break's as well. My major problem is that timing is poor while playing and i don't understand metronome whether guitar or piano/synths. I have no ryhythm sense and musical skills has been shit all the time, technique while playing is wrong etc.

I have heard that some persons it takes longer time, but does it really? Couple of persons that i have met have played about 15 years starting with age of 6-7 and are level above me.


So basically i don't understand nothing from music and haven't learn nothing yet, apart from chords inversion and reading staff. I have had couple of piano lesson's back in 2004-2005, but that includes lot of amusement lessons as well. So I learn those things there but nothing really useful. The teacher also said that use click/metronome but that didn't work. So basically I actually didn't do my homework's at that time.

Any tips how to continue my music recreation will be greeted.


Why not try drums? I cant imagine better way to improve rhythm sense. I have played drums something like 16 years, and when i play other instruments, there is no problems in timing. A drummer got timing in his brain, or spine prehaps?

However, i suggest you to play drums. Then, after learning some basics and staying in beat, try even more instruments. If there is not possibility to play drums, buy cajon. You can play it in apartment building, its not too loud! And believe me, it is very challenging instrument.

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Prince Kheldar
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#5 kirjoitettu 25.12.2011 01:15

The way I learned to play guitar was just by doing poor covers from easy songs. Let's say a song like Knocking on Heavens door is good song for learning. You don't have to use this "Click" device at the beginning, just listen the original song and try to go with flow when you play, like said here before.
Only four chords in the song: G... D... Am... and then G... D... C and the chorus goes as well G D C . It doesn't really matter if it's not in time, or your strumming is wrong as long you just regonize the song you are playing. The key for learning is just that you just enjoy playing.

My timing was awful and still It's the area where I have the biggest problems as a guitarist, but because I'm now playing in a band it's getting better all the time. So if you can play with someone else it should help your timing. Also you should find those correct strumming patterns in U-tube. After you learn those right, you should try out that cursed metronome again .

One thing that is fun is to record your play and then analyze it afterwards. You hear your mistakes also much better this way (well maybe not so fun ) ... I have played guitar now about 4 to 5 years and the first three years was very hard to me also. But it was sudden moment really that I noticed that I Can play( well I'm still far from a pro guitar slinger). All the training just paid off at the end.

...Well I hope I cheered you up littlebit. If not, it doesn't matter.

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Shah
Shah
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#6 kirjoitettu 25.12.2011 10:49

Imagine the instrument`s just a vehicle to express what you want to do. Whether it`s a guitar, synth, drums, or singing. Or is it rather more a performance than a plain music? Sometimes, some people may find their interest is just some kind of a first "step", giving a hazy hint about finding the real instrument, form of art etc. etc. But it`s all worth to do it. Every try, mistake and weakness is a golden treasure.

A good example: I know a fellow jazz drummer, a very talented one, who still found his career as a dance- and performance teacher in polytechnic. There was a lot to do with the rhythmical part and sequences in it.

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Susimies
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#7 kirjoitettu 28.12.2011 20:20 Muok:28.12.2011 20:23

hey wtf..??! can this really be... no, it cant... do we have a foreigner among us? welcome to our holy website, most noble outlander! feel welcome to visit my humble house if u need a place to stay. Me and my family, we never let strangers walk alone in the dark and cold night of Finland!

Tervetuloa villiin pohjolaan poikaseni!

BTW: dont worry mate, i have been playing acoustic guitar for about 5 years and im also still just a rhythm senseless noob. so u r not alone

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Ulo
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#8 kirjoitettu 28.12.2011 20:42

Susimies kirjoitti:
hey wtf..??! can this really be... no, it cant... do we have a foreigner among us? welcome to our holy website, most noble outlander! feel welcome to visit my humble house if u need a place to stay. Me and my family, we never let strangers walk alone in the dark and cold night of Finland!

Tervetuloa villiin pohjolaan poikaseni!

BTW: dont worry mate, i have been playing acoustic guitar for about 5 years and im also still just a rhythm senseless noob. so u r not alone


You just didin`t..

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Susimies
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#9 kirjoitettu 28.12.2011 20:59

Ulo kirjoitti:
Susimies kirjoitti:
hey wtf..??! can this really be... no, it cant... do we have a foreigner among us? welcome to our holy website, most noble outlander! feel welcome to visit my humble house if u need a place to stay. Me and my family, we never let strangers walk alone in the dark and cold night of Finland!

Tervetuloa villiin pohjolaan poikaseni!

BTW: dont worry mate, i have been playing acoustic guitar for about 5 years and im also still just a rhythm senseless noob. so u r not alone


You just didin`t..


yeah im afraid i just did...

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JM
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#10 kirjoitettu 03.07.2012 16:28

no... actullu, this is kind of good way to promote oneself for twisted fuck like me, but still...eiköhän lopu kohta.

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vade-
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#11 kirjoitettu 23.07.2012 12:02

Sounds like you need to start a punk band! Find some hate within yourself and money will follow.

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jerepih
jerepih
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#12 kirjoitettu 26.07.2012 20:39

You said that your technique is wrong... no it isn't! There is no right or wrong technique in any instrument. Many people have told me that i play guitar "wrong" and then they showed me how they think guitar is played right. So... i tried their way to play and i just coldn't play that way.

What i'm trying to say here is that you must just find your own techniques and play the way you feel most comfortable.

Sorry for my bad english. I hope you understood.

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KorgTriton
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#13 kirjoitettu 26.07.2012 20:53 Muok:26.07.2012 20:55

jerepih kirjoitti:
You said that your technique is wrong... no it isn't! There is no right or wrong technique in any instrument.


Try playing piano and you will notice very soon that there is "wrong" techniques (aka one finger technique for example)

But in overall it does not matter too much how you play as long as you feel comfortable and it sounds good. Still some ways are just much better than some other ones

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jerepih
jerepih
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#14 kirjoitettu 26.07.2012 21:06

Okay you proved me wrong! I've played keyboard for 2 years now and there really is some wrong techiques.

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Shah
Shah
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#15 kirjoitettu 04.08.2012 21:36 Muok:04.08.2012 21:38

JM wrote:

no... actullu, this is kind of good way to promote oneself for twisted fuck like me, but still...eiköhän lopu kohta.


KorgTriton wrote:
[...] one finger technique for example)




lol

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